That can be undersold, I think, the importance when you're trying to do something good is that everybody understands the director's vision, everybody believes in it, and everybody can find their own path to supporting it, and that's how you end with a great movie.

The first thing you do as a producer is you try to understand the director's vision in as deeply a way as you can. Sometimes, you end up with a director that has more vision or sometime they have less vision. You hope that they have more. In the case where they have more, you need to understand it in the deepest way you can.

You want to put people together who will work well, and each movie kind of has its own personality in terms of how people are working or the temperature on set, and we want people who will fit in with that mix. It's one of the really important parts of it.

There's a thing about Hollywood where there are at least a couple of guys that behind closed doors and in small circles we think of as having a magical P.T. Barnum quality. Which is to say, they may not be the most talented, and they may not be the smartest, but their movies made money or won awards, so they move ahead.

Even when you're casting, casting is always one of the weirdest subjective areas. You can get a group of people who would decide and say, This person is a great actor and this person is less than a great actor, but there will always be somebody else who likes that person better than you based on their experience in their other films.