The idea of the record is that it's a statement for working with a group, of a collaborative work. That should be visible in the music.

If you work with so many classical instruments... I mean, it still has this power, and it's still connected to the idea of techno. But it has its own quality, its own sound. It's in between, even more than the record before. You need to give every instrument, sound, and element the space it needs.

We've played two shows with seated audiences, and two with a standing audience. Both were cool. Sitting is more mental, in a way, [but] after a while they really want to get up and move. It's very euphoric, I think, because people see what's actually going on. The energy takes over.

If you listen to certain things then you can hear music everywhere. But it's your perspective on 'what do I listen to, why do I listen, what's going on.' And then you have music.