Going against Jim Brown wasn't any different than going against Jim Taylor and any of the other guys. He's just an obstacle that we have to overcome. We just couldn't put anything together.

I never got in a conflict. I didn't want Don Shula to say a word to me at all. My play emphasized that. He couldn't get me for anything or whatever. After that we were ok. I just didn't like the way they used me at the end of the 1963 season going in 1964. I felt that they played games with me.