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[Donald] Trump has put forward a list of people he would like to see on the Supreme Court, whom the Kochs would be very happy with too. So it's not all bad for them.
Jane Mayer
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Jane Mayer
Age: 69
Born: 1955
Born: January 1
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Jane Meredith Mayer
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