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They [the Kochs] want free trade and cheap labour. They own the second-largest private company in America, which is a huge multinational corporation. So they are on a different wavelength.
Jane Mayer
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Jane Mayer
Age: 69
Born: 1955
Born: January 1
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Jane Meredith Mayer
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