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It was our view of the worst that could befall our people if they were taken captive. So, what was fascinating to me was that somehow it appears the techniques that we have feared most in the world would be used on our people, we are using on people in our custody.

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Jane Mayer
Age: 69
Born: 1955
Born: January 1
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