For us, selling a million records in 2005 is the equivalent of selling 2 to 3 million records (five years ago). Rock records aren't flying off the shelves like they used to. Hip-hop and pop are so huge. (But) everything's on the upswing for us.

This is my dream. I ain't giving up. I see a band like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and they've had their ups and downs, but they've continued with heart. We look up to that. I see Papa Roach being around for another 15 years. We've always wanted to be a career band.

It's kind of cool that we've quietly been selling a million albums. We knew the album wasn't going to debut at No. 1. I'm stoked to see us being successful again.

We really refocused ourselves. I didn't want to live my life in a dark shadow all of the time.