Do something to make more money yourself - spend less time drinking or smoking and socialising, and more time working.

It was very difficult. We don't advertise this much, but those years that we went through were hell. I don't want to overstate the situation, but everything was mortgaged to the hilt, cash was a real problem, and it did limit what we were able to do.

My father's vision was to see the Pilbara developed in a way that would benefit his beloved north, and West Australia and he wanted to see Australia become a stronger economy benefiting from the development of our north. His life was spent pursuing that vision.

Become one of those people who work hard, invest and build, and at the same time create employment and opportunities for others.