I think, by and large, the way big social change happens is every individual person taking on whatever little piece they can take on.

An hour to one person might be way more than like a week to somebody else.

I think what drives me is a sense of, well, who is going to do it if you don't do it? I think that one of the things that we've seen over time, especially with progressive social movements, is most of them - it's surprising to people - are sort of driven by that.