I think we're all kind of alike when you do your first film. You have great hopes, but you don't hope too much.

When I first met Laurence I was Keanu's [Reeves] stunt double on the first Matrix. So, a little evolution there with career status. But then cut to the thirteen/fourteen years later where now I'm asking Laurence Fishburne to trust my directorial capacity [in John Wick 2].

I consider Laurence [Fishburn], Keanu [Reeves], both very acclaimed actors, I mean so good.

With John Wick we wanted to do something like that. So rather than punching, kicks - and for the kind of way we wanted to shoot it, which is longer takes - our initial instinct was let's go with a throwing or grappling arm.

Character imperfection is the important thing to keep them from being superheroes.